My comments - on the comments
Am going to review some of the posts that appeared on my review of the FDU game...
This comment which began: You're getting it all wrong...nobody's gloating about MU probably breaking their string of 6 consecutive winning seasons, etc.
I am absolutely on board with Dave underlining the string of winning seasons. What college hoops coach wouldn't? Tom Green .wouldn't pitch it high and hard in the media and to recruits if FDU was on such a run, Howie?, etc.
The Mike and the Doggie issue was addressed on a later comment - ..apparently they did have MU in the mix per that blogger. If they didn't that was irresponsible on their part.
Re the big man issue - we have been over this..name the ONE big man since MU turned D 1 that MU brought in who was an impact player right away...yes, AL B. And he was a Prop 48 and began as a sophomore...
.Blake, Owens, Albano, none of them set the world on fire their first years. From watching practice I think Dobriansky has a chance to be OK down the road. A 1,000 point scorer? ..that's 50-50 at best.
Gaitely definitely needs work on offense; DelTufo - no idea really except from what people tell me in that he may be a decent "system" player...
While you're at it..does MU get any credit for successfully recruiting Jhamar?
This comment which ended with: Maybe Dave should give PT to young guys and see if they have any heart. Your Thoughts?
I did wonder about that last night. Would have liked to seen Crews play the last two minutes or so. As long as MU has a shot for a home game in the playoffs...or the playoffs period..Dave is probably going to go with his basic seven barring foul problems/injuries, etc.
Hayward points:
MU needs to be going after the type of big men FDU has - 6'7" or 6'8" guys that are fairly athletic. You don't need 7 footers to get rebounds in the NEC. Andre Harris did a great job last night.
From me: MU did go after athletic players the last two years - one was named Tyson Johnson, the other Rickie Crews.
Mike Shipman has not been the same since he came back from his academic issues. He's clearly the 3rd guard and falling.
My comment - That could well be the case unless he starts to play more under control. Ship wants to be the point guard, he wants to lead, so I'm not throwing in the towel on him yet.
I thought we might have a Phantom sighting last night - I guess we'll wait to 2007-08. From me - See my comment above.
This comment - I have been reading this blog most of the season and I think I have read enough. It is a disgrace that adults are setting here saying that young men who have worked their entire life to acheive one goal have "little basketball IQ"!!
From me - fans do tend to vent more after a loss than glow after a win. That seems to be human nature. This blog gives fans that opportunity to discuss, vent, etc. , win or lose.
Opinions are just that - opinions.
This comment which began: You're getting it all wrong...nobody's gloating about MU probably breaking their string of 6 consecutive winning seasons, etc.
I am absolutely on board with Dave underlining the string of winning seasons. What college hoops coach wouldn't? Tom Green .wouldn't pitch it high and hard in the media and to recruits if FDU was on such a run, Howie?, etc.
The Mike and the Doggie issue was addressed on a later comment - ..apparently they did have MU in the mix per that blogger. If they didn't that was irresponsible on their part.
Re the big man issue - we have been over this..name the ONE big man since MU turned D 1 that MU brought in who was an impact player right away...yes, AL B. And he was a Prop 48 and began as a sophomore...
.Blake, Owens, Albano, none of them set the world on fire their first years. From watching practice I think Dobriansky has a chance to be OK down the road. A 1,000 point scorer? ..that's 50-50 at best.
Gaitely definitely needs work on offense; DelTufo - no idea really except from what people tell me in that he may be a decent "system" player...
While you're at it..does MU get any credit for successfully recruiting Jhamar?
This comment which ended with: Maybe Dave should give PT to young guys and see if they have any heart. Your Thoughts?
I did wonder about that last night. Would have liked to seen Crews play the last two minutes or so. As long as MU has a shot for a home game in the playoffs...or the playoffs period..Dave is probably going to go with his basic seven barring foul problems/injuries, etc.
Hayward points:
MU needs to be going after the type of big men FDU has - 6'7" or 6'8" guys that are fairly athletic. You don't need 7 footers to get rebounds in the NEC. Andre Harris did a great job last night.
From me: MU did go after athletic players the last two years - one was named Tyson Johnson, the other Rickie Crews.
Mike Shipman has not been the same since he came back from his academic issues. He's clearly the 3rd guard and falling.
My comment - That could well be the case unless he starts to play more under control. Ship wants to be the point guard, he wants to lead, so I'm not throwing in the towel on him yet.
I thought we might have a Phantom sighting last night - I guess we'll wait to 2007-08. From me - See my comment above.
This comment - I have been reading this blog most of the season and I think I have read enough. It is a disgrace that adults are setting here saying that young men who have worked their entire life to acheive one goal have "little basketball IQ"!!
From me - fans do tend to vent more after a loss than glow after a win. That seems to be human nature. This blog gives fans that opportunity to discuss, vent, etc. , win or lose.
Opinions are just that - opinions.
posted by Tony Graham at 7:11 PM
15 Comments:
Tony good points ,Fans get CRAZY in all sports,fights name calling,etc.Its been going on since the roman days.MU has spoiled us FANS over the past SIX seasons,and we not good losers.
lets get a huge win Thursday and get a run going.
To the person whose feathers I have apparently ruffled earlier today, resulting in a response from them the length of War & Peace -- let me see if I can calm you down a bit off that ledge!
Let me start off by asking you why you lied in your post? -- WHERE IN MY POST DID I CALL FOR CALLOWAY TO GET FIRED? Tony, you’re moderating this – did you see that anywhere? Re-read it please? As a matter of fact, you said it was a ‘good post’ – that you’d get back on! All I did was criticize him because I said he uses the line about 6 straight winning seasons for job-security. Seems a bit thinned-skinned to me to extrapolate that to ‘fire him’! I’m afraid criticism comes with this territory.
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As far as who’s ‘grossly wrong’ and who’s not:
Was I ‘grossly wrong’ that most of MU’s wins come from NEC games?
Was I ‘grossly wrong’ that the football team’s latest recruits have the appearance of being
on another level compared to those on the basketball team, some of whom, in Tony G’s own words ‘need work’? The past 2 years have been dreadful with only 1 significant recruit/year (Coleman & Youngblood) – that won’t git’ er done!
Where, sir (or madam), did you find any complaint of mine blaming the coach that the system isn’t working?
I mentioned the radio program (sorry I did) where I didn’t hear MU mentioned as one of the possible teams in their tourney. Someone has posted they were. If that’s true I was wrong, didn’t hear every minute of the show -- my mea culpas to all! They’re readying the gallows for me now.
You said you would categorize me as ‘far from an MU fan’. My friend, it is you now who are ‘grossly wrong’; I suppose traveling to those 2 NCAA games last year makes you think you qualify to judge others like this, but in all honesty, I’ve forgotten more memorable MU hoops moments than you’ve ever experienced!
You also said I probably just jumped on the bandwagon last year some time. If that’s so, how come I still have memories of Ron Kornegay, Jim McIntyre, and Lou Sniezek starring on opening night of Boylan as WE beat St. Peter’s? Look them up, junior, before you get back to us?
And your final jab at me was for posting anonymously (funny, I see it works for you though!). Believe it or not, it’s simply for convenience and ease – I’ve never set up a logon! And for the record, yes, ALL my posts are anonymous!
Before you attack people on the blog, how about reading and understanding their points, and avoiding false accusations – you’ve made up a slew of them in your post!
P.S – Do you REALLY believe Calloway’s name was on the speed dial of some
A,D.s during the NCAAs? I’ve got a bridge to sell – cheap!
To War and Peace responder to first War and Peace response - all lively stuff though from both ...
To last poster - no, you did not call for Dave's head on your post.
Someone did as the first poster on the post game FDU comments. That's about par for the course after every loss.
There is little doubt in football MU has gone to war and apparently won a few battles (Dave Ogden and some others) with some of the "big time" or more accurately stated ""higher than NEC echelon" 1-AA schools. .I like that (1-AA) so much more than FBCD (football championship subdivision) moniker...
I may have stated this before..I was told by several MU men's hoops
coaches the Hawks tried to get involved this summer with A-10 type caliber players - which was the right move after last spring's impressive showing...and these players apparently turned their noses up at MU...and also the NEC whose hoop reputation is not what a lot of high schoolers dream about....
NEC football wins over the likes of Georgia State, Delaware, Colgate, etc. last fall seemed to make for good recruiting fodder in that world.....
I have Dave on my speed dial. Does that count?
Tony,
We all sat in the stands the other night thinking that the game was going to be the classic FDU vs MU battles that we have all become used to. Those first 12 minutes we saw a tough MU defense and an offense that showed signs of greatness. Then something happened...Basically everything that FDU threw up towards the basket fell in. I personally don't think FDU is as good as they showed that night. It was their night, we've had them, every team has had that night. What can you do about it. Absolutely nothing. The thing the scares me the most is that a grew flaw was shown in the MU defense that night which I think we are going to see more teams try against us. FDU ran down the court after every miss or make and turned Bunch in to a non-factor.
There was a gentleman sitting near me that night who kept yelling, "Calloway why don't you use the full court press". I'm not sure if he reads this blog, but I'd like to say to this fellow..."learn MU hoops before you yell!" With 8-10 mins in the game MU can not afford to use a full-court press. We don't have the athletes and that is not our defensive plan that early in the game. If you thought FDU was able to score as easy as they did with the match up, what do you think they would do with a full-court press? It's amazing when you listen to all of the so-called coaches in the stands who know exactly what could and should be done. Here's a clue....You don't know! I know we are all frustrated and want MU to win every game, but the reality is, this season is not over. The NEC is a league where any team can win the championship whether you are a 1 seed or an 8 seed. All you need to do it get on a run and realize that each night has to be played to perfection. We've done it before folks and I'm not selling the farm just yet. Yes we look like crap on certain nights and can't hit the side of the barn, but remember the NEC tourney is a whole new season and anything can happen.
Now as far as Thursday night goes, MU needs to start that playing to perfection at the 7 pm tipoff. No if, ands or buts.
So to all of the so-called coaches in the stands who want to shout what Dave should or shouldn't do, how about yelling DE-FENSE, or M-U when we need the crowd to get the team going. Belive it or not the team feeds off of the crowd noise. Get your hands from under your butts and stand up and let all go for 40 minutes. It's ok to let your guard down and be human and have fun. Yell to support, not to critize, you may find that its lots of fun. Just look over at the student section and you may learn something about being having fun at a basketball game and being a fan.
I guess if MU couldn't attract A-10 type players last year (after an NCAA appearance) there's little hope for an upgrade this year -- and next year we have no scholarships!
A fan with a reasonable plan!
Unless something changed between now and yesterday MU men's hoops has two scholarships for 2007-2008.
Tony, I missed the boat. What happened to Tyson Johnson? Where is he now?
Did you sail to the South Pacific? Not a bad location this time of year.
He failed out of MU over the summer, is at a JUCO in Texas, hoping to resume his D1 career in the fall, somewhere.
Tony, IT'S A SHAME THAT PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF CHANGE. It's time for MU to revamp the defense. The zone has no affect on athletic teams with average shooters. To many open looks. Basketball is played on much faster level. Kids today don't make their teamates accountable for missing defense assignments. The man defense exposes who really has the desire to win. FDU wasn't challenged at all monday night. Pressure bust pipes.
I have to agree with Bob here...maybe MU could have tried a press for a few minutes just to see what happens ..still think it would have been a good time to use Crews..
I asked Dave today about putting Crews and or Simspon in at the end..said he never considered it.
Re: people afraid of change.
C'mon now. The match up zone has worked year after year after year with and without athletes. Players have to play it correctly.
MU is making adjustment no. #306 with it this year vs. CCSU (I am sworn to secrecy, but who the heck knows if it will work?), but overall principles remain the same.
My earlier comments about MU not being atletic was referring to the build of athletic player that FDU and many of our other opponents seem to get each year. Their athletic player seem to be 6'5-6'6 guys that can jump through the roof and aren't afraid to jump over a player in front of them.
As far as the trying the full court press, if MU tried to press FDU the score would have been worse. We simply just can't run with athletic teams. MU athletic is much different than FDU and CCSU athletic. Our game is control, not jumping through the roof and the team has to understand that concept.
All do respect fellas, could it be safe to say that our control against the run and gun is not working. I don't care how long the system has worked it isn't working now. Don't you think these teams have figured out that we want to control the game. That is why they come in and attack because we won't and can't handle when they do. When in Rome.......
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