On RU men's hoops ignoring MU
This was posted on another blog on here earlier this evening and I thought it might be of general interest:
Here is the post:
Sorry to detour your MU - Albany thread, but had to get in another football comment of a more immediate nature.
Waiting anxiously to watch Louisville destroy Rutgers tonight. They can't score enough points to make me happy.
The reason? RU has dissed Monmouth (and I think you know this) in basketball for years now. They don't want to play us or participate in the NJ tournament that was attempted a couple of years ago.
The last time we did play each other, Gary Waters made a comment to the effect that this type of game (MU vs. RU) was a 'no-win' situation for them, and he obviously was unhappy about playing it. Funny how Seton Hall (a Big East member just like RU) regularly schedules MU & puts that same type of 'no-win' situation on the line. Funny how a team like Gonzaga (an infinitely better program than Rutgers) actually lowered themselves to even play us in our building!
There's obviously a better-than-thou attitude among the RU admin when it comes to us at Monmouth. I'm not talking about students (where that kind of attitude will be found anywhere and would be expected & excused) -- it's much higher up than that.
So hopefully we'll get to see the Scarlet Knights dragging their elitist butts off the field tonight with loss #1 when it's over. Maybe their delusions of granduer will then pass.
Tony, thanks for letting me vent my pent up hatred (over many years)for RU ----
GO CARDINALS!!!!!
5:20 PM, November 09, 2006
This was MY COMMENT -
On your thoughts of RU men's hoops skeds...
In their defense they have to play Seton Hall (Big East) and Princeton (traditional rival) every year.
That leaves St.Peter's, FDU, MU, Rider and NJIT as other D1s in NJ.
My opinion, as the "state school" they should play two of the others every other year, and one, one year. So MU, and each of the non SHall/Princeton D1s would play RU once every three years.
That would give every MU recruiting class one shot at the Knights and not overwhelm RU with NJ schools. Heck..they (RU) played St. Thomas Aquinas and Maine last year....traditional rivals? I think not.
9:47 PM, November 09, 2006
Anybody else care to chat on this?
e-mail tonygsports@aol.com
Here is the post:
Sorry to detour your MU - Albany thread, but had to get in another football comment of a more immediate nature.
Waiting anxiously to watch Louisville destroy Rutgers tonight. They can't score enough points to make me happy.
The reason? RU has dissed Monmouth (and I think you know this) in basketball for years now. They don't want to play us or participate in the NJ tournament that was attempted a couple of years ago.
The last time we did play each other, Gary Waters made a comment to the effect that this type of game (MU vs. RU) was a 'no-win' situation for them, and he obviously was unhappy about playing it. Funny how Seton Hall (a Big East member just like RU) regularly schedules MU & puts that same type of 'no-win' situation on the line. Funny how a team like Gonzaga (an infinitely better program than Rutgers) actually lowered themselves to even play us in our building!
There's obviously a better-than-thou attitude among the RU admin when it comes to us at Monmouth. I'm not talking about students (where that kind of attitude will be found anywhere and would be expected & excused) -- it's much higher up than that.
So hopefully we'll get to see the Scarlet Knights dragging their elitist butts off the field tonight with loss #1 when it's over. Maybe their delusions of granduer will then pass.
Tony, thanks for letting me vent my pent up hatred (over many years)for RU ----
GO CARDINALS!!!!!
5:20 PM, November 09, 2006
This was MY COMMENT -
On your thoughts of RU men's hoops skeds...
In their defense they have to play Seton Hall (Big East) and Princeton (traditional rival) every year.
That leaves St.Peter's, FDU, MU, Rider and NJIT as other D1s in NJ.
My opinion, as the "state school" they should play two of the others every other year, and one, one year. So MU, and each of the non SHall/Princeton D1s would play RU once every three years.
That would give every MU recruiting class one shot at the Knights and not overwhelm RU with NJ schools. Heck..they (RU) played St. Thomas Aquinas and Maine last year....traditional rivals? I think not.
9:47 PM, November 09, 2006
Anybody else care to chat on this?
e-mail tonygsports@aol.com
posted by Tony Graham at 9:26 PM
8 Comments:
Well....I guess after this RU football win I have, after deep and serious thought, come to this conclusion.....
RU football would have a chance against Monmouth.....
Honestly, nice win for RU football, who cant respect the heck of a job Schiano and those kids have done this year, but cmon RU hoops=pathetic...Monmouth had them beat a few years ago at the RAC, Gary Waters by the way coached his way right back to Kent St...Congratulations Gary, thats what you get from backing down to a lower tier team like the Hawks...you're bravery is commendable my friend!
After last night's result & the euphoria in New Brunswick, and factoring in the way RU has treated Monmouth in hoops over the years, the dinosaurs will roam the earth again before we see an RU-MU football matchup!
Well, to be fair to Waters, he was correct. It really is a lose-lose situation. You win, and you are supposed too. You lose, and boy would that ever be bad. With that said, it is utter baloney as every team plays mid-majors and lower level schools, including Rutgers. Heck, MU played at Maryland about 5 years ago, and played them close for the first half. They played at DePaul (I think they were ranked at the time) my sophomore season and had the lead with about 8 mins left or so. They have continually played higher level teams than RU and have played them tough at times.
A side note on Gonzaga. They came to MU and played us at home but they were not at the level they were at now. They were still a mid-major and not a force to be reckoned with just yet. Gonzaga became a household name in 1999, when they made the run to the Elite 8. The following season, they made it to the Sweet 16. MU was then able (and it may have been set up before this time) to set up a home and home. You wouldn't have any chance at getting them to WLB now. Once the MAAC gets built, we may have a shot at getting name schools (I'm not talking about national powers per se) to come, but not yet.
Hey Tony, any of the Monmouth games on the tube?
Gonzaga played at MU in 2001-2002 (MU had just played at Maryland three games earlier!)..That was a a result of a home and home Dave had been able to arrange after MU played at Gonzaga the year before in conjunction with that MU trip to UNLV. I have to think Gonzaga was a household name by then (2001-2002)...they probably needed a home game the prior year and Dave was able to work it all out. Penn is coming to Boylan Gym next year (they're not Gonzaga but that's still a semi "name" school) and Princeton may be here too..as that series was lifted for one year and Tigers owe MU the visit from last year. If the MAAC is ever built I think you'll see more "name " teams at MU.
Hy Jim...I can't run that last comment because of you know why. I admire your passion but we can't go there. Just resend it without the you know what. Always good to hear from you.
Re: TV. Don't think so. MU didn't know of any or web casts, I checked the various web sites and didn't see any links to streaming video. A local cable company (Cox Cable..that figures) is doing the ODU-MU game but how one picks that up I have no idea. If anyone comes up with any TV or web casts of the MU games please let us know!
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