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Sunday, February 18, 2007

OK..let's talk playoffs! Does MU make it? Where does it finish? This includes Sunday night's Wag-RMU game

Top eight teams qualify.

Sunday night result - RMU defeated Wagner, 71-63.

It appears to me now MU has a shot at fourth place (Sacred Heart).

It has tie-breakers with MSM, RMU, and Wagner. Loses tie-breakers to LIU, and Q pac. Overall this is shaping up as a tie-breakers nightmare

x- 1. Central Conn. State 14-2

2. Quinnipiac 9-5

3. FDU 9-6
Sacred Heart 9-6

5. Robert Morris 8-7

6. Mount St. Mary's 8-8

7. Monmouth 7-8

Wagner 7-8

9. LIU 5-10

10. St. Francis, NY 5-11

11. St. Francis, Pa. 2-13

x - clinched regular season title

Games remaining of teams involving Monmouth's playoff bid:

MONMOUTH - Tuesday at LIU, Friday vs. Sacred Heart, Monday at SFPA

Quinnipiac - Thursday vs. SFPA, Saturday vs. RMU, Monday at Sacred Heart.FDU - Tuesday vs. Sacred Heart, Feb. 24 at Wagner, Feb 26 at St. Francis, N.Y.

Sacred Heart - Tuesday at FDU, Friday at Monmouth, Feb. 26 vs. Quinnipiac

Robert Morris - Thursday at CCSU, Feb. 24 at Quinnipiac, Feb. 26 vs.LIU.

Mount St. Mary's - Thursday at Wagner, Feb. 24 at St. Francis, N.Y.

LIU - Tuesday vs. Monmouth, Feb. 24 at St. Francis, Pa., Feb. 26 at Robert Morris

Wagner - Thursday vs. MSM, Saturday vs. FDU, Monday at CCSU



Blogger Tony Graham said...

To Bob (Tie-breaker Curran). What is the highest MU can finish? You have five minutes!

10:05 PM, February 18, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as I hope we make the playoffs I'm still not convinced that this team has the mental toughness it takes to finish the season and go in to the playoff and do what it takes.
We definately show signs of greatness but we just can't string them together to make a run. Great job the other night hawks, please finish strong! Our hearts can't take much more of this stuff!

8:43 AM, February 19, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony I have a topic that I hope you may run. I wonder what the other hoops fans think about Monmouth University's lack of traditions. Our fans/alum don't know the fight song, there is no cheer that we all know. What do you think the athletic department/fans could do to build some kind of tradition. I bet most people don't even realize that at the end of each home basketball game the cheerleaders and band sing the school song. I think it's time we try to build some type of tradition and I'd like to see what others on the board think. This is a great forum Tony and I think it will only get better.

8:49 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

I'm working on it.It looks like a 4 seed is the best.More to follow.

9:36 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

Ok, I got it.We can finish as high as a 3 seed.We of course need to run the table and finish 10-8.We need FDU to lose their last 3 and finish 9-9 and QU to finish 2nd.Next, we need a 4 way tie with RMU,MSM and SHU.Our record would be 4-1 vs these foes followed by SHU-4-2,RMU -2-3,MSM-1-5.Thus we would open at home vs.6th seeded MSM.Sorry for the delay,Tony.

10:06 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

We actually don't need RMU to be in the mix but we do need the Mount.If we have a 3 way tie with SHU and MSM we also get the 3 seed by winning the tie-breaker.Bottom line is, we need the Mount to win and FDU to lose their remaining games and a few other things to fall into place.

10:28 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

Now that we have looked at the best case scenario,let's look at the rest.At 9-9 we will most likely be a 6 seed(beat MSM and WAG)in tie-breaker.We most likely play SHU or FDU.We could play QU or RMU but this is less likely.
If we finish 8-10:We can still be a 6 seed if tied with MSM and WAG.If we get in a 3 way tie with LIU and WAG we have a good chance of being knocked out.In a 4 way tie(for last 3 spots)with LIU,WAG and MSM we would get the 6th seed via tie-breaker.
At 7-11 with:MU,SFNY,MU,WAG, It get's kind of wild.If FDU finishes 3rd or higher,SFNY is in in at 7 and LIU at 8....MU and WAG are out.I hoped this cleared it up,Tony.

11:56 AM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

I didn't even know MU had a song and I've only been going to Boylan Gym for over 30 years or so!.

My suggestion would be to contact Cliff Rowley..the new Spirit Coordinator...his e-mail is on the MU staff web site.

As for the previous post. Despite the win the other night MU 's flaws were still evident... mainly in problems with late game composure..The turnovers down the stretch (Deki and Marques) were nearly fatal.

12:14 PM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

For logistcial purposes and other reasons I would love to see a four seed...(well, three too) but three looks like as miracle shot via your scenario. How does MU get a four? Hop to it!!!

( do a great job!)

12:18 PM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

Here is what I think will happen:
All tie-breakers are factored in.

12:20 PM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger bob curran said...

we can actually get a 4 seed at 9-9 but we need FDU and QU to finish 2 and 3....order not important.If MU,RMU,MSM and SHU finish 9-9 we are 4-1 vs them and get the TB.Also if WAG gets in the mix we would also win the TB.If we get in a 3-way with SHU and RMU,we are the 5 seed.

12:43 PM, February 19, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What team do you think is having a more disappointing year,RMU or MU?I can't believe things in Moon Township are Honky-Dory.

5:08 PM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Re: RMU. I was thinking the same thing. But I wonder how many people care out there. Where is the RMU blog when you need one?

10:30 PM, February 19, 2007  
Blogger B_uzz said...

Tony, I like the thought that one of the anonymous posters suggested about starting a tradition. I have been thinking about this for a while myself and was going to suggest that maybe we do what several other schools do at the start of the game and also add at the start of the second half. That is to get exeryone to stand and cheer "MU" or "OOOOOOOH" until Monmouth scores a basket. This should get the fans into the game early and let the visitors know it's still a loud venue right from the get-go.

7:03 AM, February 20, 2007  

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