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Sunday, November 11, 2007

MU/Seton Hall - please make post game comments here

Am off to "The Rock".
Will sign on again this evening..

28 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I watched the game on TV , give them a lot of credit they played " MONMOUTH BASKETBALL" as coach Calloway calls it . Well Coached, looked in very good shape, smart playing most of the time ,the bad news were the T/O ' s way to many 6-7 were simple mistakes . Youngblood was outstanding , Nunner and Rutledge were very solid , Whit had a shot at history . Give this team time they will be right in the mix of the NEC . All the kids that played were out there playing to WIN , that's all we can ask for as MU fan's . GO HAWKS

6:00 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous callowaycantcoach41 said...

Welp....lets just say no one saw this coming at all....the first half was basically a disgrace and we turn the ball over WAY too much, but the second half "changes" (making shots and not turning over the ball every other time down the court) kept us in the game and almost won us the game, which needless to say was very impressive....

my evaluation of the team goes as follows and id like to hear what you guys think too....

starters-

dutch - use your boy and grab a rebound! also get inside - no reason why he is outside the whole time on offense because no one will cover you

deltufo - first off, he will now be refferred to his new nickname... del "briefcase" because he does work!...del briefcase does all the little things like rebound and work his butt off on defense that this team needs...he just needs to watch the fouls so he cant stay on the court a little more

coleman - i honestly think he will be more of a heart attack than anyone else on the team...not only is he the most inconsistant offense player on the team, but he counters that with his outstanding defense, and could very well be the defensive player of the year when all is said and done this year

"Jet" Youngblood - if anyone can give coleman a run for his money in giving the most heart attacks this season it will definitely be the jet....every amazing play he makes, he manages to screw up with by turning the ball over every other posession...he will without a doubt lead the team in scoring but all around he will be very interesing ot watch to say the least

hett - tyler azzarelli jr. can we say? though very young and will need a little more time, but he is the one guy on the team i trust with the ball in his hands.....my only beef with him is to please just one time SHOOT the ball!!!!... aside from that im impressed

bench guys -

barbour - great athleticism and very skilled...loves his hustle and reminds me of a more skilled (okay prolly alot mroe skilled) corey hallett....i believe he will be starting before long when dutch finally loses out

nunner - what a difference a year actually makes.....he plays defense and hustles now!...we all knew he could shoot the lights out but now that he does the little things he will be a significant part of this team as well

rj - he is the one guy i honestly have no opinion on because i dont know what to say...hes almost like a version of youngblood with less time - as far as him doing one thing horrible but making up with it by making huge shots or playing good d....he'll be another interesting player to watch this year though im 50/50 on him

crews - lets just say at least he woke up for the game! haha....but seriously he played well too....he just didnt play much....he rebounded well, played great defense, but yet was shaky on offense but so is the whole team

overall i think we could suprize some people this year but will be a very streaky season....some lows (mainly due to calloway) and hopefully more highs....im gonna guess 2 or 3 seed in conference and hopefully a ncaa berth again

6:21 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was fortunate enough to be at the game and i am not going to lie i was very surprised on how well the players did. the freshmen i was impressed with were Hett, DelTufo and Rutlege. Barbour has to work on his free throws( missed one which cost the game). This might not be as bad of a season we are expecting

6:24 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey TG
Its Tim Walker I thought there would be alot of negativity on this board after not winning this game. This is what a young team needs. I hope this gives them alot of confidence as the season moves on. I watch the game on foxsports gametrax and it was agonizing as I watched the Birds. Lets use this as a springboard hawks

Tim Walker

6:38 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous gym rat said...

First Calloway can COACH , his systems both off and def were tweeked from past seasons and it looked ok today . T O ' s and free throws MUST improve ASAP , Hett and or Nunner should bring the ball up with much QUICKER out let pass to the Jet or Whit , easer said then done ! they will improve as the season moves forward . All the BIGS played better then anyone expected ,Rickie needs to relax and go hard to the basket " forgetabout" the out side shots your 6-7 and can jump out of the gym.... RJ looks like a player and Whit needs to step it up NOW .. They are better now then a 10th place NEC team that you can bank. Tony this should be a fun season ....

8:07 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous have a 3 on me said...

My only question is which team shows up for Notre Dame on Friday -- MU from today's 1st half, or MU from the 2nd? If it's the latter I think things could get a bit interesting for the Fighting Irish!

I think as the season progresses Hett must take control of the ball away from Youngblood and Coleman. If he can handle it like he did in the 2nd half and direct the offense everyone will be much more effective.

Very impressed with Hett, Del Tufo, Rutledge, & Barbour. Gately, while not a scorer, handles himself OK too.

8:09 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe I'm missing something, but hopefully someone can answer this for me:

With about 4 seconds left in regulation time after SH had just tied up the game, a SH player attempted to steal MU's inbound pass and tried calling timeout as he fell out of bounds. At the time I'm pretty sure SH was OUT of time outs (can you check that Tony)? If so,why wasn't a technical called?

8:21 PM, November 11, 2007  
Anonymous mu mystery coach said...

Tony,
First of all I was very surprised with what I saw today. This team is more athletic, plays much faster, is more out of control, more mistake-prone, has the ability to make better athletic-based defensive plays, is much weaker inside and applies much more pressue on a consistent basis then what I am used to when thinking of Monmouth Basketball. Anonymous who stated that they played "Monmouth Basketball" I think was off-base because Monmouth Basketball that I have known is execution, defensive stops and efficiency that I did not see throughout the whole game tonight. However, I did see some great youthful exuberance, hustle, heart and pride. Overall I just want to say that I was proud to wear my Monmouth Basketball tshirt today and was very happy with the adjustments the coaching staff made from the 1st half to the 2nd half. 16 turnovers in the 1st half to 7 in the 2nd/ot was great. I feel the team settled down a lot in the 2nd half and played more to the style of Monmouth Basketball. My reviews of each player:
Youngblood: I feel that the Jet had a solid game, besides his turnovers. He is not a PG and it is better when he is not orchestrating, rather attacking on the offensive end. His jump shot, especially from deep 3 point range looks much improved. He will be relied upon to be the leading scorer and be on attack mode everynight this season. Moreso than any other player, as he goes MU will go more times than not this season. I am excited to see him continue to grow and blossom into a star in West Long Branch. I was happy with his game today, besides the turnovers.
Coleman: Superman was full of kryptonite during the 1st half today. He was very turnover prone throughout the game unfortunately. (ended with 7). However, his defense led the charge and comeback in the 2nd half. He has the ability to be the best defensive guard in the NEC this season. He needs to be more focused and aggressive on offense to provide Youngblood with a viable 2nd option and be a junior leader on this young squad. His defensive example is a great start, but he needs to continue to take and make shots and take care of the ball. I am looking for him to take the major step forward that I had expected last season especially after his coming out part at the ODU tournament.
Hett: I like his point guard instincts, although he does have a tendency to pick up his dribble to quickly for my taste against the press. I like his ability to finish on the back-cuts a la Tyler Azzarelli and he does a good job of keeping his man in front of him defensively. I would like to see him take a jumper or two in order to keep the defense honest though.
Nick DelSuitcase: Very workmanlike with his play. Showed a nice touch and seems to seel off him man and get good position down low. I liked his ability to help the Hawks today and I think that he will continue to be an asset for the Hawks this year and in the future. I see some real ability and untapped resource offensively and doing the little things for years to come. Also sets very nice and effective screens. Very impressed...
Dutch Gaitley: Not as impressed...Seems to have a major lack of offensive ability. Does a nice job passing from the high post. He seems very grounded and needs to work on his boxing out and rebounding tactics. I do see some major energy and leadership qualities, and feel that he might be better suited in a back up big man role as the season unfolds.
Barbour: Very active and full of hustle and muscle. Easily the best rebounder on the MU team. I would like to see his along with DelSuitcase's offensive ability in the post against NEC quality big men. I am very intrigued to see his development when he learns the offense and think that he could be a very good help to this team, especially on the boards.
Nunner: A very strong game today. He has a chance to be a stabilizing upperclassman presence off the bench this year. The Nun-Gun was very smooth with his shooting and surprised me with his defensive intensity off the bench. I said on this blog last year that Nunner could blossom into a Chris Kenny-type of rotation player with hitting big 3's and playing spirited defense. Those qualities showed today against a bigtime opponent. Nunner's game is limited, however what he offers MU could utilize.
Crews: I was impressed and happy to see him play today. He showed athletic ability and some hustle especially on defense while in the game. I was upset to not see him in the 2nd half, any clue why? I feel that he could be a much better big man option than Dutch.
Rutledge: This kid has some serious game and ice water in his viens. He hit big shots today and showed that his length and athleticism could help the Hawks both offensively and defensively. I think I could see him developing into a bigtime player in the NEC down the road.
-Overall, I think that this team will make mistakes but is a lot better than I/we expected at this point in time. I feel that they will become even better as the games go on. It should be very exciting come NEC season to see where they are at when the conference play starts. I would like to continue to see the development of Hett as a pure pg in MU's system, Crews/Barbour offerring athleticism and hustle up front, DelBriefcase's development and solid play a la Brent Wilson/Russ Anderson, Rutledge/Nunner offerring offense off the bench and the high scoring duo of the star guards Jet/Superman. I'm exciting for the year, and I think many other MU fans will be after today's game.

8:27 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

A few comments on some of your comments:

To Calloway can't coach: You are on borrowed time.

You are going to have to change your screen name or you're outta here...

Guess you didn't read the blog decorum post on insulting comments which includes screen names...

And if you feel he cannot coach, fine. But you're going to have to offer reasons..not just blanket remarks with no explanations..

I did like "Del Brief Case,'' well, sort of. Maybe there's something better??


On Barbour foul shot costing MU the game.

Really???

I guess his go-ahead rebound hoop, five points, and five rebounds while playing on a sore ankle were of no significance?

He is not a proficient foul shooter but is working on it..is trying hard to get better..and his 1 of 2 in that instance I, personally, was satisfied with..

Re " The Jet"

Second half he had three assists and one turnover...

Ys, he will turn the ball over some because he is so aggresssive...

But let's see..27 points, five rebounds (tied for team high with Whitney and George) plus two steals.

You know what? I think I'll keep him...

8:44 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Re: the possible technical foul.


I had to cut this part out of the story because there was no room...

Anyway..here it is...

Harvey then stole the ensuing
inbounds and, with the Pirates
out of time outs, was signaling
for a time out as he sailed out
of bounds.[
""It could possible have been a
techical foul,'' said Gonzalez. ""I
said to (referee) Eddie Corbett
it was a great job by him be
cause he tried to use it to
teach.''

(OK..Bascially, Gonzo is saying the ref gave him a break)


Calloway said the officials were
correct in not assessing a technical which would have provided Monmouth two shots and
the ball.

""The (NCAA) changed the
rule,'' Calloway said. ""You
can't be jumping out of bounds
and calling a time out. You
don't get rewarded a time out
(in that instance) anyway.

""""If it was a clean play (Harvey
called time out while in
bounds) then it's an automatic
technical foul.''

In other words - as I see it, you can't officalluy call a time out while going out of bounds, because the time out is not recognized.

Had he landed in bounds....it would have been a very different ending....

8:51 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Re: MU Mystery coach. "The Nun-Gun,'' outstanding!!!


Re: Rickie second half..right now I like him on defense better than offense.

Is offensively turnover prone.. really struggles in the half court at times.

DelTufo, Barbour, even Dutch less likely to make a key mistake...

Rickie taking a 3 like 10 seconds into a first half shot clock got him benched in a hurry...he can't do that...

But he'll be in the rotation..is a fabulous finisher in transition ...he just has to find a niche...

9:28 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Re: Notre Dame..let's not get carried away.

If they win one game in this event (not sure against who) that will be more than I expect...

9:32 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

To last anon re: pathetic...

If you would like to resend without your very last sentance I'll run it..otherwise, forget it...

11:27 PM, November 11, 2007  
Blogger JMG1mON said...

I didn't realise this game was on tv. It sounds like Monmouth made a very spirited comeback that unfortunately fell just short! We need to be proud of our guys for the way they played today. This team doesn't seem like they will quit. Do not forget, we are supposedly worse than last year and Seton Hall is better than last year. We lost by 40 last season!!! My hopes for this season are rising. Hopefully, we can steal one in the Paradise Jam. Do not expect it to be Notre Dame. Sure we almost beat a Big East team today, but they were picked to finish 13th, Notre Dame, 9th in the preseason poll.

12:03 AM, November 12, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

getting back to the technical foul question:

it's ironic isn't it, that if SH had made that steal and tried calling timeout, there would have been a technical called against them & MU would almost definitely have won the game; since the player was falling out of bounds and it wasn't a steal, an entirely different outcome -- just our luck!

9:35 AM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Clare McDowell said...

Hey Tony G!
Every year, you and I have almost a tradition. Before the SHU-MU game, you always say to me, "Maybe this will be the year that Monmouth beats Seton Hall!" And I always tell you it ain't gonna happen.
This year, you forgot to say it. As I was in full panic mode watching the Pirates' lead disappear then turn into a negative in regulation, I realized this was the first time in years we didn't have the pregame "challenge!"
Fortunately for me, my Pirates survived. Phew.

10:05 AM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Clare,

Yes, remind me never to have that conversation again!!!

10:28 AM, November 12, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Book your March trip to Dayton... The Mighty Hawks are gonna play Alcorn State in the play-in game.


Hook'em Hawks.

11:15 AM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

To Hook 'em....Whoa baby...let's take it wasy re..The season apparantly has more promise than I anticipated...but it's only one game.

Let's see if they can steal one at the Paradise Jam...

12:30 PM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Re: the "Time out." Just talked with the NEC head of official Edgar Cartato...

The rule is - any time out requested while in the air cannot be granted.

Had the kid landed in bounds he would have had to call another time out to have been hit with the technical ...

12:40 PM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Hawks86 said...

It pains me to waste time out of my day to write on this blog but there are a few things that need to be said:

First, Tony, don't ever comment on how these kids prepare for a game without listening to a broadcast first. You said they needed to be more prepared from what you've heard from others. Don't take other people's words for it and make up your own mind. But in order to do so, you need to turn on one of the games first.

Second, after the Colgate game, RJ missed the three, the game ended, and Coach Calloway congratulated the team and RJ for his hustle after getting down the floor and getting off the best shot he could. You obviously weren't there so you don't know what happened, so keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself.

Finally, the kid referred to Coach CALLAHAN NEVER CALLING HIM DAVE CALLAHAN because the broadcasters calling the game were promoting the next days football broadcast. Incase you didn't know, Coach Callahan is the head football coach here at Monmouth University.

This negativity about WMCX has to stop. All these kids do is work and work to get better everyday and it doesn't help their confidence when disgruntled individuals speak negatively about their performance.

Kepp your mouths shut and if you have a significant gripe, don't go to Tony. Act like a man (or woman) and take it up with the right people. Leave Tony out of it.

But obviously, you know more than they do.

1:04 PM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Alvin said...

Wow--there are more experts here than Soccer. I thought the team did a great job of not giving in to any kind of defeatist feelings. They haven't gotten much positive re-enforcement from fans, fighting a difficult past record, and a bad first half start. They stayed together and kept working and should be given a lot of credit for not giving uo. I think they proed to a lot of people how much heart and determination can produce. Keep it up!!!!

1:29 PM, November 12, 2007  
Anonymous Hit a Free Throw said...

Its funny how the comments on the board have moved towards "this season won't be so bad." Everyone wanted to count the guys out and say how this was the beginning of the end. Lets face it, none of us know jack! These kids proved that they can play hoops. Its easy to sit in the stands or behind your computer screens and say how this kid is good or this kid is bad. All of these kids have talent to play division I basketball whether you want to believe it or not. They proved that they can hang with a semi elite program and scare the living crap out of them.
Was yesterday's game a fluke? Who knows. But what I do know is that these kids are going to shock a lot of people and shut a lot of people up who counted them out. I posted in the blog before that they need to use the word RESPECT as the battlecry for this season.
This season will be very interesting to say the least!

1:36 PM, November 12, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

Your comment to me : "You obviously weren't there so you don't know what happened, so keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself.''

My comment.. Yeh, like that's gonna happen...!!


I did say - these kids are not pros, etc., etc.

I also said I understood that...

I did listen to most of the the pre-game show for the Colgate game and it wasn't bad.


Bottom line - I also agree if anyone has a gripe with MCX they should take it to the school advisor/ etc....

That was eventually my policy last year and is now in effect this year as well..

I still say the school does not present itself in its best image to the public by having a student station as its only live broacast media outlet..

That has been my opinion and I am sticking to that....

2:49 PM, November 12, 2007  
Anonymous shipman4life said...

borrowed time eh?.... oh well.....my gripe with calloway is that he is the worst in game coach i have ever seen in my life.....how long does it really take to realize that when your down 20 points that you have to open up your offense, or at the same point in the game(as good as their d is) to press and switch things up every so often.....he sticks to his guns - which i give him credit for i guess- but he has to let go sometimes because a timeout here or there, or switching things up could help us out and stop huge runs before we are totally out of the game

3:51 PM, November 16, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

To Ship4life...I like Mike and I would rather have you not sully his name with arguments that make very little sense - at least to me.

So you better go anon: at least you may have a chance then...

4:04 PM, November 16, 2007  
Anonymous shipman4life said...

what wrong with my name? shipman is one of my favorite players in the past couple years and im very upset he is not still with the team..... i do it as a sign of respect/tribute to him more than anything else.....would never disrespect

2:45 PM, November 18, 2007  
Blogger Tony Graham said...

To Shipman4 Life...Your name. Ok then. No problem...

8:56 PM, November 18, 2007  

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